my mom isnt a big fan of guns, but after being mugged once, she appreciates the value of a well placed firearm.
she doesn't mind that i hunt and go to the shooting range regularly with my father.
about 6 months ago, i was out in field service with my mother and an elder's 2 daughters.
Imagine going to a Judicial Committee armed!
How about field service with a 9mm in the book bag?
Could you work an old flintlock rifle in to a student talk as a prop? Maybe compare the firepower to David's ass bone?
A Glock each would add interest to an elder's meeting!!
i watched sunday this morning, then was on my way out 30 minutes later but guess who was at my doorstep?
smooth jw elder and a little boy!
i was very controlled, and had the choice of letting my identity as "an opposed person" or whatever be known, or to retain my cover as an ordinary member of the public!
My word he was.... where was Viv? This John guy was hung out to dry. Their silly letter and refusal to speak spoke volumes...
well, what a week!
health problems have been our overriding concern but, as the song says, "i'm still standing!
how's things been with you?
iThere were just better thinks to be doing... eating, drinkng, sleeping, JWDing, just sitting, watching Sunday, walking the dog, going to Macca's, making mad passionate love, howling at the moon... all sorts of things....
i watched sunday this morning, then was on my way out 30 minutes later but guess who was at my doorstep?
smooth jw elder and a little boy!
i was very controlled, and had the choice of letting my identity as "an opposed person" or whatever be known, or to retain my cover as an ordinary member of the public!
Hi OP!! My word!! They'll be hearing all about it!
Cheers, Max!
i watched sunday this morning, then was on my way out 30 minutes later but guess who was at my doorstep?
smooth jw elder and a little boy!
i was very controlled, and had the choice of letting my identity as "an opposed person" or whatever be known, or to retain my cover as an ordinary member of the public!
I watched Sunday this morning, then was on my way out 30 minutes later but guess who was at my doorstep? Smooth JW elder and a little boy!
I was very controlled, and had the choice of letting my identity as "an opposed person" or whatever be known, or to retain my cover as an ordinary member of the public! J
I decided to retain my anonymity for another day, but I said I'd just watched an interesting show about his organisation on TV, "What was it about" he asked? "Children" was my reply... "Ah..." was his response.
It was a good show: bethal at Ingleburn looked appropriatly sinister, and the conventon crowds decicidly odd-ball.A lot of focus went on one elder who, at face value, was in an invidious postiton, 'meat in the sandwich' in a way. I noticed all but one of the ex-JW men had facial hair that they wouldn't have as JW's. Interesting. (some how half this para was lost in my cut & paste!)
Flindersgirl came up really well! Congrats!
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it will be repeated at 1:15pm today( about 3 hours from now) on the sky news channel, if you have or can get access to pay tv.. .
great show, btw, makes the 'tower org look like a bunch of evil prats.
Great show. I think the WTS putting that elder out there to dry was poor form (doubtless he's accountable for his actions though). Where was Viv? Gward... hearing that bloody accent of his again was cringe making... and hearing them singing that song... can't remember which one, but we sang it all the time.
But what's happened to dress standards in the JW's? :-) They looked badly turned out...
the sunday tv program that is broadcast nationwide in australia on the nine network is featuring a story this coming sunday 29th may on "turning a blind eye on paedophilia".
three years ago the sunday program exposed the child sexual abuse in the jehovah's witnesses.
graham davis the reporter for that story won a new york festivals medal in 2004 for that investigation.
Sorry to hear you're unwell agin Mr Ozzie. I hope you recover well again.
We were just reminicing on old CO/DO's who left, wondered if you knew any... won't put second names... Joe S, Alan W, Phil T (think he went back)? There was also Ray C. I think he got moved around a bit. I remember Joe S coming to our place for tea, he found The Oz and a glass of somthing intoxicating and just wandered off to read and drink ignoring the rest of us... cool guy!! :-)
Regards, Max
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Most Australian jurisdictions already have similar laws and no apostates have yet been sent to the gulag! It's Ok to critsise, but inciting hatred is a way differnt thing. .
The US has a different outlook prefering to give more weight to individual rights than the consequences of conduct.
i recently attended another assembly.. after getting home sunday i reflected and thought the following:.
what did i really learn about christ?
about the bible?.
I remember a few years ago a faithful older sister saying 'I remember years ago the emphisis in the mags was on Jehovah; then it went on to Jesus; and now it's more on the organisation...'. She's still faithful, but aware.
Max
i was wondering, does anyone here know if there are any countries or states that would make it ilegal for a religious group to ex-communicate someone for voting or voting for a particular party?
In my jurisdiction there's a law "Any person who uses of threatens any ... temporal or spiritual injury, or causes or threatens to cause any detriment of any kind, to an elector in order to induce him to vote or refrain from voting... is guilty of a misdomeanor, and is liable to imprisonment for 9 months, or to a fine of $200...'
For a current JW, there's no chance of using such a law - it's privilaged behaviour. But if the elders were watching who was voting at a certain poling place, noting down numbers and then punishing those they saw there including long-since faded JW's, then there just may be a chance.
The judge in Vicki Boyer's case said in common law countries the free exercise provision does not extend to inhibiting the freedoms of non-believers. So, the freedom of ex/non-JW's from criminal behaviour (stalking, assault, threats about voting...) by JW's is (probably) not impinged by the free exercise provision. I suspect that's the case in the US too.
